Rear wheel Carrier Quality???

[Stacky]

Now that we've all spilled our opinions on wheels which has mad a huge impact on what type of tyre to get for me, i am wondering what experience do our forum members have on rear bar wheel carriers or just rear wheel carriers and stock rear bar.

Because i am gonna stick to a skinnier tyre this time round on my 80 series i should not lose any departure angle from the spare under the rear. I want to put a second spare on the rear with a swing away wheel carrier so i can avoid having the need of a roof rack.

My Troopy had a 'Kaymar' rear bar with dual wheel carrier and it was great but i got sick of swinging the wheel just to put something simple in the back door. I got a quote today on a Kaymar rear bar with single wheel carrier and it's around $3000....bugger that. So whats it cost for a kaymar single wheel carrier on stock bar? quoted around $1200...still bloody steep. Then the bloke suggested i go a cheap generic brand swing away wheel carrier from some supplier in South Oz for around $700.

Does anyone know of these generic products and whats the quality like seeming that there gonna be put through the test back home if i got one. If i get a wheel carrier, i only want to get it one time and not bust it and have to replace it.

Any suggestions?

[geoffjy]

G'Day Stacky,

A mate has a Kaymar single wheel carrier. Its a great little gadget. The only problem he finds though is that he had to frequently put new hinges on the door itself (every year or so) as the extra weight and rough roads wear them out pretty quick.

[Stacky]

G'Day Stacky,

A mate has a Kaymar single wheel carrier. Its a great little gadget. The only problem he finds though is that he had to frequently put new hinges on the door itself (every year or so) as the extra weight and rough roads wear them out pretty quick.

What size tyre did he have on it? It must have had some weight.
I never had that problem with my BFG's on the back of the Troopy's rear wheel carriers and those tyres are just under 33' inch in the new measurements.

That's the sort of problem i am worried about if i go for the generic brands.

[geoffjy]

What size tyre did he have on it? It must have had some weight.
I never had that problem with my BFG's on the back of the Troopy's rear wheel carriers and those tyres are just under 33' inch in the new measurements.

That's the sort of problem i am worried about if i go for the generic brands.


They were on 15 inch rims but the tyres had a xtra wide profile. They are heavy though.

[Stacky]

They were on 15 inch rims but the tyres had a xtra wide profile. They are heavy though.

I wonder if thats the difference between having just the swing away wheel carrier, hinges busting, compared to a complete rear bar replacement with built in swing away wheel carrier.

[geoffjy]

I wonder if thats the difference between having just the swing away wheel carrier, hinges busting, compared to a complete rear bar replacement with built in swing away wheel carrier.

I would say that a complete bar with the built in swing away carrier would be the better option especially on rough roads. Its a lot of pressure on 2 small hinges on the door.

[yetti]

stacky,

i've never had a rear carrier, but over the yrs i think i've seen every set up available when speaking to people camping at punsand. i have never seen a broken unit that was on its own seperate bar (generic or kaymar). on the other hand i've seen plenty broken that were mounted relying on the door hinges.

hope that helps

cheers

[Teabag]

I have an Opposite Lock dual wheel carrier which was $2500 fitted (mates rates) and couldn't be happier. The main swing for me to go the OL bar and carrier beside cost was the gas strut used to hold each carrier open and didn't have to be pinned every time. IMO, good bang for your buck.........

[highlift80]

I have the Kaymar twin pivot on the back of my 80 series tough as cant fault the build and qaulity.
But I agree with you stacky can be a pain when you just want to get something in and out quickly got to bend down unlatch it swing it out the open the back up close up the back swing the tyre back in latch it up.

[campdog]

If your not towing anything you could also have a go at building one yourself and mount it on hour tow hitch.
john

[Stacky]

If your not towing anything you could also have a go at building one yourself and mount it on hour tow hitch.
john

My rule is;

Towhitches are for 'boats only' or sometimes i use the hitch to connect my snatch strap to and recover Nissans.

[ant]

Stacky,
Watch the tow hitch if you are hooking a snatch strap to it. They are not recommended for that and I have heard stories of the ball shearing and flying back at the vehicle.
To be on the safe side, an 'item' should be placed over the strap to avoid it flying back at you.
There has been some research and it has been found that a weight of at least 2kg is all that is needed.

Snatch straps should be used with a proper 'towing point' for recovery.
Of course, if you are thinking of recovering a Nissan then a can of petrol is the best thing..........

[Stacky]

I remove the the tow hitch and slide the strap up the inside and put the locking pin through it.

I would never use the tow ball, thanks for clearing that up.

It would be amusing watching a tow ball fly through the front end of a pootrol though.

[geoffjy]

I remove the the tow hitch and slide the strap up the inside and put the locking pin through it.

I would never use the tow ball, thanks for clearing that up.

It would be amusing watching a tow ball fly through the front end of a pootrol though.

I have had this happen a few years back towing a guy out of a mud pit neart Lockerbie. Luckily i had a grill over my back windscreen otherwise it probably would have got me.

Also Stacky, in regards to the locking pin, i have done the same thing and one time i bent the pin a little and could not get it out.

[Stacky]

Yes, i have also bent the pin, luckily i could still get it out, but wouldn't recommend using the pin.

Rated 'd shackles' and 'recovery points' are definetely the way to go.

[geoffjy]

You will prbably find as well that the tow balls that have been snapping and flying back are from Nissans anyway. So, as Ant said, its good to have weight of at least 2kg on the snatch strap and even on the wire cable from your winch. Otherwise there is a possibility someone might lose their head in the excitement.

[Damo]

Yes, i have also bent the pin, luckily i could still get it out, but wouldn't recommend using the pin.

Rated 'd shackles' and 'recovery points' are definetely the way to go.

A shackle should never be used when using a snatch strap unless it is an absolute last resort.

If the shackle breaks it becomes a lethal weapon.

Straps should only be attached to rated recovery points.

[Damo]

I've got an Opposite Lock dual wheel carrier that cost me $2500.

It is very well made & has copped some decent whacks but it is still in great condition.

Certainly better value for money than Kaymar or ARB

[campdog]

You will prbably find as well that the tow balls that have been snapping and flying back are from Nissans anyway. So, as Ant said, its good to have weight of at least 2kg on the snatch strap and even on the wire cable from your winch. Otherwise there is a possibility someone might lose their head in the excitement.
Thats because they are fatigued from pulling out Toyotas and the bloated full of crap drivers.Probably better to snatch the driver out first then the Toyota.
Toyotas are great vehicles.Just the idiots who pretend to be drivers that give them a bad name.

[geoffjy]

Thats because they are fatigued from pulling out Toyotas and the bloated full of crap drivers.Probably better to snatch the driver out first then the Toyota.
Toyotas are great vehicles.Just the idiots who pretend to be drivers that give them a bad name.

And here i was thinking it was because of the poor quality and cheap parts Nissan's are made of.

[campdog]

And here i was thinking it was because of the poor quality and cheap parts Nissan's are made of.
There you go.You all this time and nobody had told you the truth.I hope you will be feel better for knowing the truth.

[geoffjy]

There you go.You all this time and nobody had told you the truth.I hope you will be feel better for knowing the truth.

No one needed to. Statistics say enough. :D

[campdog]

No one needed to. Statistics say enough. :D

Photos say more about the drivers. More powerful that a locomotive.Able to drive through brick walls.Yep thats enough.