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nev-e
19-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Hi everyone , new member first post so plase be gentle lol.
Heading up to Cape June 09. I have a 80 series petrol landcruiser and was wondering whether it is essential/advisable to fit a snorkel.As this is first trip will probably use bypass roads so any advice or hints would be appreciated.
Nev
nev-e,
Welcome aboard.
Snorkels, like any other accessory are a personal choice. I spent 5 years driving the cape roads in my cruiser without one and have only had mine installed for the last two years.
For me, the value of the snorkel is that it is picking up 'cleaner' air as it is higher than the standard air intake (which usually picks up air from above the front wheels). I have also found that the general performance of the vehicle is much better now with the snorkel.
Hope this helps.
Roger
19-09-2008, 03:52 PM
G'day nev-e
Ants covered the benefits of a snorkel re air quality.
Re water crossings. The short answer IMO is; If you're sticking to the main drag up and taking the Bypass Roads - No you don't need a snorkel. If you're doing certain parts of the OTL Track or some of the other side tracks (eg the Frenchmans Track) then the answer becomes not essential but desirable if your happy to spend the cash.
Our first trip up the Cape involved a couple of deep water crossings and we didn't have a snorkel but we tarped up first. No problems. In subsequent trips we fitted a snorkel recognising the benefits and as we intended to continue travel in deep water crossing country we decided it was worth the money. We've travelled up here a bit since then with others who haven't had a snorkel and with tarping up and in one case winching another vehicle through with the engine off we've had no problems.
All that being said I sure feel safer with a snorkel when crossing deep water.
Hope that helps although there are other issues relating to water crossings & snorkels.
How experienced are you at 4wding & water crossings? Knowing this will probably help those on this forum offer some more meaningful advise.
Cheers
Rog
campdog
19-09-2008, 05:59 PM
A snorkel is a must if you are going to be crossing deep water.It does more than give you clean air,it gives your motor insurance.The cost of a snorkel compared to a water locked engine.You will find that most vehicles drowned in nolans brook or any water crossing and towed away were not fitted with a snorkel.Sure you can put a tarp over and hope for the best but thats your choice.Just ask the guys at TJM and get their advise.I bet I know what they would advise.
John
geoffjy
19-09-2008, 06:38 PM
You will find that most vehicles drowned in nolans brook or any water crossing and towed away were not fitted with a snorkel.
John
and here i was thinking it was because they were Nissans.......
Stacky
19-09-2008, 06:54 PM
Hi everyone , new member first post so plase be gentle lol.
Heading up to Cape June 09. I have a 80 series petrol landcruiser and was wondering whether it is essential/advisable to fit a snorkel.As this is first trip will probably use bypass roads so any advice or hints would be appreciated.
Nev
Hi Nev,
Welcome to the forum.
The guys that have replied to your question previous to me have pretty much covered all bases.
You said your using the bypass road so simply the answer is no you don't need a snorkel, especially if your on a budget.
June is still a little early in the season and you will come across water. If it's deeper than the bottom of your headlights then put a tarp on but i doubt you'll find this problem unless you hit the water to fast or drive into Chili beach from the PDR. If you do tarp up and cross a creek and are concerned. Upon exiting the creek or if you bog shut the motor off and check inside the air filter box for water and clean any out.
If you go the other way and put a snorkel on. Make sure it's a one piece snorkel and not one of those ones that are on the 70 series model cruisers.
The conditions are different every year up here but last year my 'Old Man' went everywhere i did in my Troopy over the Cape in June without a snorkel in his Hilux, including Nolans Brook. He tarped up for that crossing and when we checked on the other side there was only a few drops of water in his air filter box.
campdog
19-09-2008, 09:12 PM
and here i was thinking it was because they were Nissans.......
You dont need a nissan to drown in Nolans. I only got a wet arse.My old nissan got me home and still going strong. No tilt tray ambulance ride back to cairns for me.
Low blow Campdog. Hope that wasn't aimed at me.
And to think, I was going to offer you a ride in the cruiser on next years Tag-A-Long...........
geoffjy
20-09-2008, 09:32 AM
Dont worry Campdog, i'm sure Ant will be nice enough to send you some pics and a few fish scales when he gets back.
campdog
20-09-2008, 01:16 PM
Low blow Campdog. Hope that wasn't aimed at me.
And to think, I was going to offer you a ride in the cruiser on next years Tag-A-Long...........
I wouldnt stoop that low Ant.I was referring to all the 100 series and 80 series cruisers that you see at Bamaga waiting for the ferry home.
campdog
20-09-2008, 01:19 PM
Dont worry Campdog, i'm sure Ant will be nice enough to send you some pics and a few fish scales when he gets back.
That would be Nice.See if you can get theire picture before you open the doors to let the water out.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/campdog_photos/phot005-1.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/campdog_photos/phot007.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/campdog_photos/100_0966.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/campdog_photos/100_0946.jpg
nev-e
07-10-2008, 09:26 AM
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your replies. Will probably go with the safer option and fit a snorkel.
plucker
07-10-2008, 05:00 PM
How do the sparkplugs and thingys go with water crossings. You might have to tarp up anyway for them.
campdog
07-10-2008, 06:29 PM
I think you will fing that most 4wds have the air intake somewhere around the front guard/headlight area and usually low.So it is very easy to get a motor full of water when attempting a crossing.By fitting a snorkel you not only eliminate this problem bet also give the motor a bit cleaner air to breath.I dont see any fuel saving advantages,just the engine.
I think you will fing that most 4wds have the air intake somewhere around the front guard/headlight area and usually low.So it is very easy to get a motor full of water when attempting a crossing.By fitting a snorkel you not only eliminate this problem bet also give the motor a bit cleaner air to breath.I dont see any fuel saving advantages,just the engine.
Dead right in what you are saying Campdog. Although I did notice a little more performance once I had the snorkel fitted. I get 10 litres per 100 kilometres with my cruiser. This changed on the last trip when I was towing the trailer and went to 13 litres per 100.
Scorcher
07-10-2008, 07:24 PM
Dead right in what you are saying Campdog. Although I did notice a little more performance once I had the snorkel fitted. I get 10 litres per 100 kilometres with my cruiser. This changed on the last trip when I was towing the trailer and went to 13 litres per 100.
Hey Ant,
What was your fuel consumption towing the trailer pre-snorkel?
Hey Ant,
What was your fuel consumption towing the trailer pre-snorkel?
Scorcher,
Only just got the trailer so not sure what it may have been. Very impressed with the trailer though. It tows exceptionally well.
geoffjy
07-10-2008, 07:30 PM
This is the aluminium trailer you were talking about getting Ant?
This is the aluminium trailer you were talking about getting Ant?
Geoff,
No, I decided on a different model. Managed to get a second hand trailer and will customise this as time goes by.
It is not a camper trailer. Just a 'basic' box 8 X 4.
If I think of it tomorrow, I will take a few pics.
Scorcher
07-10-2008, 07:35 PM
Dead right in what you are saying Campdog. Although I did notice a little more performance once I had the snorkel fitted. I get 10 litres per 100 kilometres with my cruiser. This changed on the last trip when I was towing the trailer and went to 13 litres per 100.
Just to clarify what you are saying Ant (it always confuses me too...)
Without towing the trailer, you get 10 ltr/100km = 10 km /ltr
With the trailer on, you are getting 13 ltr/100km = 7.7 km/ltr
Is this what you meant, or am I confused?? It is about the same as what I get with the 80 series +/- a bit.
Scorcher
Just to clarify what you are saying Ant (it always confuses me too...)
Without towing the trailer, you get 10 ltr/100km = 10 km /ltr
With the trailer on, you are getting 13 ltr/100km = 7.7 km/ltr
Is this what you meant, or am I confused?? It is about the same as what I get with the 80 series +/- a bit.
Scorcher
Scorcher,
That sounds right. With the trailer on, I am using more fuel. Mind you, she was pretty loaded- no point doing things by halves.
geoffjy
07-10-2008, 07:43 PM
Thats still pretty good fuel economy though especially if you are loaded down to the hilt Ant.
Here are a few trailer type pics from the trip.
Not sure how easy it is to see, but that section of shade cloth between the rear of the vehicle and the trailer was well worth it. Outside of the shade cloth 'stone deflector' on the trailer, the section from the car to the trailer stopped anything from bouncing up and hitting the rear of my cruiser.
I would highly recommend using something like this.
campdog
07-10-2008, 08:12 PM
My patrol gets about 12l/100 ks and on a trip with the trailer about 17lt/100ks.all up about 4 tonne.not including half of nolans brook.
Nedly
09-10-2008, 02:55 PM
Here are a few trailer type pics from the trip.
Not sure how easy it is to see, but that section of shade cloth between the rear of the vehicle and the trailer was well worth it. Outside of the shade cloth 'stone deflector' on the trailer, the section from the car to the trailer stopped anything from bouncing up and hitting the rear of my cruiser.
I would highly recommend using something like this.
Where were you?
Couldn't have been the Cape, there are no corrugations in that last photo :)
Where were you?
Couldn't have been the Cape, there are no corrugations in that last photo :)
Nedly,
The roads are constantly improving. I have done five trips already this year and each time, the roads have been getting better. I have one more trip to go, then I can take a break till the next season.
Looking forward to the tag-a-long in September.
Nedly
09-10-2008, 03:22 PM
Nedly,
The roads are constantly improving. I have done five trips already this year and each time, the roads have been getting better. I have one more trip to go, then I can take a break till the next season.
Looking forward to the tag-a-long in September.
I'm working on the itinerary, you'll be hearing from me soon.
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