CAMPING ON THE CAPE be safe what not to do?

[dave]

I would like to here your thoughts on the right way to go about camping safe on the cape, and looking after the place ,

IE" scaling / gutting fish near your camp?
how close is safe to pitch a tent near water salt or fresh ?
camp rubbish food scraps fish gutts ect were to dump ?
snake bite what would you do calling for help ?
and any other danger we may face on the cape .

i remember seeing on tv this land holder up on the cape who opened his land up to people to fish and camp. and he was very mad after the second season shuting down acsess. QUOTE " thay have turned this place in to an out door shit house ,end quot" :mad

dave

[ant]

I would like to here you thought on the right way to go about camping safe on the cape, and looking after the place ,

IE" scaling / gutting fish near your camp?
how close is safe to pitch a tent near water salt or fresh ?
camp rubbish food scraps fish gutts ect were to dump ?
snake bite what would you do calling for help ?
and any other danger we may face on the cape .

i remember seeing on tv this land holder up on the cape who opened his land up to people to fish and camp. and he was very mad after the second season shuting down acsess. QUOTE " thay have turned this place in to an out door shit house ,end quot" :mad

dave


Dave,
Scaling and gutting fish: prefer not to do it near camp and make sure you take the fish rubbish with you or take it far away from camp (and not near other campers- unless they are Nissan drivers)
As for camping; you have to use your discretion. I have camped right near the water and also as far away as I can in other areas. There is no simple rule or no right way for all cases.
Camp rubbish: pack it into the vehicle and take it to the closest dump.
Snake bite: consult your first aid people for proper treatment.
Always carry an EPIRB on the cape and a sat phone also helps.
As for the land holder- I don't blame him as there are some irresponsible people out there.

[geoffjy]

Hi Dave,

In regards to sat phones, I personally would not buy the Globalstar ones as they have troubles picking up a reception lately. The reason for this is last year they took down 6 of their satellites nand havnt yet replaced them.

Saying that though, if you allready have one. 20 minutes to every hour (eg. 1.40, 5.40, 8.40 etc.) is the best time to make your calls as this is when one of the remaining sats will be over head.

I tried one of the new sat phones that came out earlier this year by the name of Iridium. I was in a three story building on the bottom floor and there was heavy cloud cover and there was no hassle getting a signal. There is a hefty price tag with the unit though. $2600. You can get a subsidy if you live in a remote area.

[dave]

Ok i think i should show you guys and girls this new device
called a SPOT" heres the link http://www.findmespot.com/Home.aspx
thay work over here and just about anywere in the world.
the adventure riders are snaping them up like hot cakes.
spot was doing a deal for australians harlf price sevice for 12 months

It is a satellite messager. gps, epirb all in the one hand held device.
there around $150 +50 for 12month service to the net work.
makes traveling safe in remote parts were theres no ph service.
and when you get home you can upload your hole trip path
and over lap it on google earth.

got a worried lady at home ?press ok every now and then to let her know were you are located.or message her? a text message is sent out or email with a link to google earth showing your location and progress of your trip.keep worried minds at ease. allso has 000 help function.and much more

we all should have a SPOT .epirbs are being replaced so your waisting your money if you buy one now.The new ones will be $450 i herd on the news the other night . the spot is the go i thing..dose it all

dave

[dizne]

It is a satellite messager. gps, epirb all in the one hand held device.
there around $150 +50 for 12month service to the net work.



Where do you get them for that price?

The SPOT website says it's about US$179 + US$99 for basic service and another US$50 for tracking/google earth ability.

Also, the top of the Cape/Gulf area looks like it's on the border of the best reception/coverage area, so I wonder how reliable coverage up here would be?

Cheers,
Mick

[ant]

Ok i think i should show you guys and girls this new device
called a SPOT" heres the link http://www.findmespot.com/Home.aspx
thay work over here and just about anywere in the world.
the adventure riders are snaping them up like hot cakes.
spot was doing a deal for australians harlf price sevice for 12 months

It is a satellite messager. gps, epirb all in the one hand held device.
there around $150 +50 for 12month service to the net work.
makes traveling safe in remote parts were theres no ph service.
and when you get home you can upload your hole trip path
and over lap it on google earth.

got a worried lady at home ?press ok every now and then to let her know were you are located.or message her? a text message is sent out or email with a link to google earth showing your location and progress of your trip.keep worried minds at ease. allso has 000 help function.and much more

we all should have a SPOT .epirbs are being replaced so your waisting your money if you buy one now.The new ones will be $450 i herd on the news the other night . the spot is the go i thing..dose it all

dave

Dave,
To clarify your point about EPIRBs being replaced. This is not exactly true. The old system (121.5 MHz, or 243 MHz) are being phased out and will no longer be accepted after the 1st of November this year. The new (406 MHz) digital EPIRBs will be replacing them and you can already purchase the new models (it has been this way for over a year now).
Be sure that the system you are talking about (SPOT) is running on the new digital frequency otherwise it will not work over here. I would say that they are but just check to be on the safe side.
Hope this makes sense.

[dave]

have a look in here dizne http://www.mylivetracks.com/buy.shtml
the price might of gone up:confused:

and read more about it here people who have them in australia
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343078&highlight=spot

thanks for that ant. need too let people no this so thay buy the right one,EPIRB that is!

[dizne]

Thanks mate! Looks good ... I just don't like the $150-$200 per year after the initial purchase. I own a GPS and an EPIRB, so really don't need a spot - cool though!

Cheers,
Mick

[dave]

hell i didnt relise it was that much guys never read the fine print .
ok this is how it is got pay to play ! all US dollars
1. Required - $99/year: Basic Satellite Service, which includes the ooo alert, ask for help, and check-in functionality
2. Optional - $49/year: Tracking upgrade option (unit automatically sends a message every 10 minutes)
3. Optional - $7.95/year: GEOS Search and Rescue benefit


$49 tracking ATM harlf price =$25
SPOT unit $150.00.with.free shiping to australia

total $275us for the first year yes and $150 each year after.

thay should make month too month conection avalble when you need to use it
still as mick says pretty cool little device !

[dave]

Iridium. sat phone $2600 can you get that on a plan:p "lol"
what are the call costs? geoffjy !

[Nedly]

Iridium. sat phone $2600 can you get that on a plan:p "lol"
what are the call costs? geoffjy !

$4.00 per minute or part there of, ie, 59 seconds = $4.00, 61 seconds = $8.00.

I rented one for our trip this year, the cost was quite reasonable.
I'll post the name of the company and cost later (when I remember).
In coming calls were at no cost to me, and cost the caller the same as a mobile call.
Outgoing calls were as above.
My only real complaint was the battery life, very short.

[Berniek]

$4.00 per minute or part there of, ie, 59 seconds = $4.00, 61 seconds = $8.00.

I rented one for our trip this year, the cost was quite reasonable.
I'll post the name of the company and cost later (when I remember).
In coming calls were at no cost to me, and cost the caller the same as a mobile call.
Outgoing calls were as above.
My only real complaint was the battery life, very short.

Telsta Next G sim works in an iridium phone. You just need to get global roaming turned on.
Call costs are about twice as dear as on a plan. (but no monthly payments) You get charged for outgoing calls & the caller gets charged for incoming calls (cost as above).
You can get the old model from EBAY or from the US for about $600.
If you can get one from Australia, (telstra used to have the franchise and you got GSM as well as iridium, the US ones dont usually have GSM)) you can set them up to try the normal mobile first, if no service then sat phone.
Just uses the mobile number rather than a special iridium number.

If you go for a plan seriously consider one of the US carriers as its usually cheaper (it doesn't matter where you pay your money the service is global)

Some bad reports on SPOT ..I don't think you cant tell if the message has been actually sent AND recieved. (that depends on where the satelites are at the time)

[Nedly]

$4.00 per minute or part there of, ie, 59 seconds = $4.00, 61 seconds = $8.00.

I rented one for our trip this year, the cost was quite reasonable.
I'll post the name of the company and cost later (when I remember).
In coming calls were at no cost to me, and cost the caller the same as a mobile call.
Outgoing calls were as above.
My only real complaint was the battery life, very short.

Thanks Bernie, I forgot about this one.

The name of the mob I hired the Sat phone from is:-

Kyle Communications Pty Ltd
Burpengary, Qld.
www.kyle.com.au (http://www.kyle.com.au)

Bernie, I thought about buy a sat phone but couldn't justify the cost.
The only reason I had it at all was because the in-laws (never again) were with us, they're a little old and the phone was for emergency purposes.

[geoffjy]

The only reason I had it at all was because the in-laws (never again) were with us, they're a little old and the phone was for emergency purposes.

Know where you are coming from there Nedly. My inlaws are always nagging me about being carefull up here. The time i picked them up from cairns and brought them up was a very frustrating time indeed. Almost made them walk. :p